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Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:13 am
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roman.oxymoron wrote:Good news everyone, death is already implemented and you can simply turn it on/off when started a game ... we agree that death is part of medicine and shouldn't be missing in game like this Wink
Morgue is still up to discussion of game design, so we don't know yet.

Will families of the patient come in and start crying? If death can be turned off what will be the point of having a cure or to try to make the patient better? You could fire all your staff and it won't matter cause none of your patients will suffer? Have I missed anything? Smile

Can patient die in surgery if you did something wrong? Like a wrong misdiagnoses? And then staff not being happy with you and family member not happy with you? So if this happen you be trusted less and patient won't want to come and see you?

Could you save a wrong misdiagnoses? So if one of your staff is doing something an alarm goes off if you catch it and so take over to try and save the patient? Will it be like this?

Will patient have some kind of monitor system to monitor their vital signs when going into surgery or being care off? Smile Is this too complex? So staff can now who needs emergency care? Perhaps even a conflict for players? Who do I operate on first? They are all going off and critical? Smile

I checked the forum and no one has mention this yet perhaps its a core feature that needs to be in the game? Or if too complicated a basic version so can gradually get more complicated as the game grows in popularity?
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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:26 am
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... families are only visiting, if patient is in critical state, they are sent home
... when patient die, it negativly  influences your hospital reputation and insurance companies (no interaction with families)
... yes, patient can die during the surgery becouse of wrong diagnose (can be turned off, then patient is moved to another hospital and your reputation decreases)
... yes there is life monitors (for icu, trauma centres, operating rooms, high priority and observation wards) ... and yes if you don't have enough free operating rooms, then you can choose who's going to be first (or build new one)
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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:26 pm
roman.oxymoron wrote:... families are only visiting, if patient is in critical state, they are sent home
... when patient die, it negativly  influences your hospital reputation and insurance companies (no interaction with families)
... yes, patient can die during the surgery becouse of wrong diagnose (can be turned off, then patient is moved to another hospital and your reputation decreases)
... yes there is life monitors (for icu, trauma centres, operating rooms, high priority and observation wards) ... and yes if you don't have enough free operating rooms, then you can choose who's going to be first (or build new one)

Thank you can you show a pic of what the monitor looks like? Is the monitor simulated so it has direct connection to the patient? And it changes when say they are given the correct or wrong medications? Smile
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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:30 pm
NurseEsther wrote:
roman.oxymoron wrote:... families are only visiting, if patient is in critical state, they are sent home
... when patient die, it negativly  influences your hospital reputation and insurance companies (no interaction with families)
... yes, patient can die during the surgery becouse of wrong diagnose (can be turned off, then patient is moved to another hospital and your reputation decreases)
... yes there is life monitors (for icu, trauma centres, operating rooms, high priority and observation wards) ... and yes if you don't have enough free operating rooms, then you can choose who's going to be first (or build new one)

Thank you can you show a pic of what the monitor looks like?  Is the monitor simulated so it has direct connection to the patient? And it changes when say they are given the correct or wrong medications? Smile

No monitors are not going to be animated (it's out of our possibilities) ... it's visible here:
https://projecthospital.forumotion.eu/t7-2018_03_09-screenshot-icu
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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:33 pm
Thank you so I don't understand how would you monitor your patients? Do you click on them and then it shows you details of what is being monitored? Is that how it will be done? And also I thought all patient in hospital will be monitored? Thank you if you can explain? Or is it more that staff will just walk around monitoring them? Like if they are going to get sicker how would staff know? Any thing in the UI that will show it? Thank you!
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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:28 pm
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@NusreEsther
I think by "monitoring" you mean the fact of a real display that shows an ECG-curve or a saturation?
I don't think that this will be shown in game within the "you can treat"-window.

Just imagine the staff observing (so they monitor as well) the patients and the displays. It's just not visible for us (and would cost mass of processing power I assume).

In fact, a small amount of patients in Hospital are monitored by a machine. Only these who are instable or tend to be (so e.g. at A&E - but not even all of them there -, Chest-Pain-Unit, intensive and intermediate care, in operating theaters of course and mostly cardiology patients).
Hospitals do not possess an endless amount of monitoring devices so it could happen (so wehere I work) that instable or potentially critical patients can not be admitted.
Actually the patient status gets assessed by the nurses or doctors seeing the patient, examine them or just bringing them their food. The most patients on normal care make their health public enough anyway. And them who can not hence require more care and are seen more often (monitored by staff additionally).

In game you see a patients status by the scales in the upper right corner and by the patients priority in the left mid I think. (Can be seen in the anouncement trailer at 0:31)
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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:49 am
1. Perhaps animated monitoring might be too difficult but perhaps statistics on their health for each patient might be better? So if you click on a patient then you will get his or her health report?

2. Since you will have so many patient how would you know how to treat first if there is not some kind of system? Do you need to click on everyone to check them? Or will they be alerts of some kind? And what is this trailer you talk about?


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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:27 pm
my suggestion a floating alert symbol - like ! or death skull to show what is happening
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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:55 pm
rsdworker wrote:my suggestion a floating alert symbol - like ! or death skull to show what is happening

i agree, and since death will be for sure in the game i really think that a morgue would add a realistic next step after a patient passing, a medium room with 4 or 6 fridge or a medium refrigerated room with 4 or 6 metal gurney for exemple would do the job.

And staff would take the body by themselves since we "valid" that the patient has passed.
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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:20 pm
After the death of patient you could perform an autopsy to discover new way of treatment for your patients.
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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:12 pm
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Hi, a quick comment about monitoring - certain levels of hospitalization (like ICU) are indeed monitoring patients and also the nurses keep an eye on them. This way the staff can notice early if a patient is getting worse so they react accordingly - or, for the patients you've set as your favorite - a message will pop up to notify you directly.
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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:57 pm
jan.oxymoron wrote:Hi, a quick comment about monitoring - certain levels of hospitalization (like ICU) are indeed monitoring patients and also the nurses keep an eye on them. This way the staff can notice early if a patient is getting worse so they react accordingly - or, for the patients you've set as your favorite - a message will pop up to notify you directly.

This sounds so great!
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Re: Death, Monitor, wrong diagnoses?

on Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:37 am
Notifications are something that I am waiting for. I can not imagine life without smart notifications. I am an addicted player and games like this one or other games should have smart notifications because it helps to have better focus. For example, in wow I set notifications so I always know what is going on when I am looking for rerest mount in wow or I want to buy wow items. Notifications are very important and we all are using them in phones, work, school, everywhere.
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